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there is no content collected by the nsa. there are bits of data: location, telephone numbers that can be queried when there is reasonable, articulable suspicion. i so regret what is happening. i will do everything i can to prevent this program from being cancelled out. senator, i don't have any questions. >> it is ironic that not only is diane feinstein, who's a democrat, one of the most devoted apologists of the nsa, the position that she occupies in the senate, which is chair of the senate intelligence committee is the position that is supposed to be devoted to overseeing the intelligence community, serving as a watchdog over it, and yet they've managed to put and install into that position, one of the most slavish devotees and loyalist of all of their powers. >> the people who are the ones who are supposed to be watching the intelligence agencies are the ones who end up being their biggest supporters and to some extent, the ones who try to rationalize every form of misconduct that ever gets displayed to us. >> as more and
there is no content collected by the nsa. there are bits of data: location, telephone numbers that can be queried when there is reasonable, articulable suspicion. i so regret what is happening. i will do everything i can to prevent this program from being cancelled out. senator, i don't have any questions. >> it is ironic that not only is diane feinstein, who's a democrat, one of the most devoted apologists of the nsa, the position that she occupies in the senate, which is chair of the...
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for fear of being prosecuted. >> the nsa's goal really is the elimination of privacy globally. it is literally a system designed to monitor all forms of human behavior inside the united states, which is the ultimate surveillance state. >> last december, glenn greenwald received an email from a person who didn't identify himself. >> we still didn't know who he was, where he worked, but he was saying he had access to large amounts of very sensitive surveillance information that show the united states government was violating the law and abusing it's power. >> suddenly in my lap had dropped some of the most potent instruments for shining a light on what it is that they are doing, beyond your wildest dreams as a journalist. i had literally, physically couldn't breathe at points because of excitement and shock. >> the source was edward snowden. >> the nsa specifically targets the communications of everyone. it ingests them by default. it collects them in it's system and it filters them and it analyzes them and it measures them and it stores them. >> up to that point, the director of
for fear of being prosecuted. >> the nsa's goal really is the elimination of privacy globally. it is literally a system designed to monitor all forms of human behavior inside the united states, which is the ultimate surveillance state. >> last december, glenn greenwald received an email from a person who didn't identify himself. >> we still didn't know who he was, where he worked, but he was saying he had access to large amounts of very sensitive surveillance information that...
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in other words, the nsa broke the law. of course there's more. an italian magazine reports that the nsa may have spied on the pope and some cardinals. sources say the magazine -- sources at the magazine have been told that the nsa eavesdropped on vatican phone calls possibly around the time the former pope benedict's successor was under discussion. possibly, it reports before the conclave that top secret meeting of cardinals. a vatican spokesman could not or at least would not verify the claims. man alive. >>> in the past hour, the justice department joined the lawsuit against the company called investigation services. the firm that vetted edward snowden. investigations services essentially gave the okay for snowden to handle top secret information before he leaked documents about spying. so that we're finding out about all this is ed snowden's fault, therefore everything is ed snowden's fault, certainly not the nsa. >>> meantime, russia is facing its own spy scandal. russian operatives gave goody bags a the the recent g-20 summit containing usb
in other words, the nsa broke the law. of course there's more. an italian magazine reports that the nsa may have spied on the pope and some cardinals. sources say the magazine -- sources at the magazine have been told that the nsa eavesdropped on vatican phone calls possibly around the time the former pope benedict's successor was under discussion. possibly, it reports before the conclave that top secret meeting of cardinals. a vatican spokesman could not or at least would not verify the...
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but experts say no other spy agencies come close to the nsa's vast data collection. despite the risks, president obama is the first u.s. president to use a blackberry, overruling objections from the c irgs a and nsa. >> knowing other countries would be interested in listening to his phone calls. he ended up with one of the most secure blackberrys on earth. >> reporter: and he won't give it up. >> is the president still using his blackberry? >> i have no change to announce in terms of the president's communications. >> reporter: he loves that blackberry. tonight diane finestein ordered a total review of all intelligence programs. the most sweeping since after 9/11 saying she opposes spying on allied leaders and was also kept in the dark about merkel. brian? >> andrea mitchell starting us off from our d.c. newsroom tonight. andrea, thanks. >>> you may remember that one-woman filibuster in the texas state house a few months back. it was about legislation that became one of the strictest abortion laws in the country. tonight a federal judge put it on hold. our justice co
but experts say no other spy agencies come close to the nsa's vast data collection. despite the risks, president obama is the first u.s. president to use a blackberry, overruling objections from the c irgs a and nsa. >> knowing other countries would be interested in listening to his phone calls. he ended up with one of the most secure blackberrys on earth. >> reporter: and he won't give it up. >> is the president still using his blackberry? >> i have no change to...
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>> well, let me say something about the nsa. i believe the nsa is filled with good patriotic people who want to do the right thing. they follow the orders they're given. the administration controls intelligence. the national intelligence framework is put together by the administration. it begins with the director of national intelligence, it goes to the white house, it's the president, it's the nsc the cabinet and then the framework is formed. now, what happens is, people add to it, state wants this, department of state wants to know this. or somebody else wants to know that. priorities are ranked. as i understand it these are the priorities. one, terrorism. two, support of our military abroad. three, nuclear counter proliferation. four, hard targets. and now cyber. and those are the main areas. so essentially the nsa is told to do certain things and it does it. what i think we need to do, we work very well with the house committee and leadership, mike rogers and congressman rupersberger is review of the intelligence framework o
>> well, let me say something about the nsa. i believe the nsa is filled with good patriotic people who want to do the right thing. they follow the orders they're given. the administration controls intelligence. the national intelligence framework is put together by the administration. it begins with the director of national intelligence, it goes to the white house, it's the president, it's the nsc the cabinet and then the framework is formed. now, what happens is, people add to it, state...
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. >>> now to this widening and nsa spying story. all of it coming by leaks by the former u.s. defense contractor edward snowden. tonight's revelations involve very big names in the internet and e-mail world. now big companies are calling for new privacy laws to stop u.s. intelligence agencies from breaking into their data overseas. for more on all of it we turn to our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell in our d.c. newsroom tonight. andrea, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. the tech companies worry they are losing an arm's race with the nsa which nbc news confirms has been hacking into google and yahoo data centers around the world as fast as the company has put up firewalls. vacuuming up e-mail and phone records. google and yahoo data centers in all corners of the globe reach targets by data collection by nsa and british intelligence. as first reported in the "washington post" they found more documents leaked by edward snowden, hundreds of thousands of e-mails, search queries and other activity collected, decoded and filtered and possible intelli
. >>> now to this widening and nsa spying story. all of it coming by leaks by the former u.s. defense contractor edward snowden. tonight's revelations involve very big names in the internet and e-mail world. now big companies are calling for new privacy laws to stop u.s. intelligence agencies from breaking into their data overseas. for more on all of it we turn to our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell in our d.c. newsroom tonight. andrea, good evening. >>...
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when we come back, the nsa controversy grows. as a new round of leaks pit the spy agency against the white house over who knew what about our overseas intelligence operations. but isn't it time to turn the page on your cup of joe? gevalia, or a cup of johan, is like losing yourself in a great book. may i read something? yes, please. of course. a rich, never bitter taste cup after cup. net weight 340 grams. [ sighs ] [ chuckles ] [ announcer ] always rich, never bitter. gevalia. store and essentially they just get sold something. we provide the exact individualization that your body needs. before you invest in a mattress, discover the bed clinically proven to improve sleep quality. the sleep number bed. once you experience it, there's no going back. right now our queen mattress sets are just $1299-our lowest price ever! plus special financing until 2015. only at one of our 425 sleep number stores nationwide. sleep number. comfort individualized. i honestly never thought that someone would try to enter into my home without my permi
when we come back, the nsa controversy grows. as a new round of leaks pit the spy agency against the white house over who knew what about our overseas intelligence operations. but isn't it time to turn the page on your cup of joe? gevalia, or a cup of johan, is like losing yourself in a great book. may i read something? yes, please. of course. a rich, never bitter taste cup after cup. net weight 340 grams. [ sighs ] [ chuckles ] [ announcer ] always rich, never bitter. gevalia. store and...
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worried about the nsa spying on the pope. this is going to be a big issue in the end, i don't believe that they reach critical mass and actually make profound changes and i could be very wrong but i do think in the end there are too many people that back up this kind. >> wholly alliance? one could argue these are people whether they are liberals or libertarians concerned with privacy. >> alliance that tends to frustrate their party in their traditional base of their party. they meet on afghanistan and meet on drone use and meet on surelts. you saw dick cheney surveillance. they are still in the republican establishment a strong defense whatever the. in sa is doing. in the end it will be interesting to see whether or not the new coalition is the majority. >> charles, has any of this, as it's come out and steve is quite right because the initial headlines sometimes isn't backed up by what we find out, has any of it changed your mind about edward snowden and whether or not he is a whistle blower or somewhere on the spectrum to t
worried about the nsa spying on the pope. this is going to be a big issue in the end, i don't believe that they reach critical mass and actually make profound changes and i could be very wrong but i do think in the end there are too many people that back up this kind. >> wholly alliance? one could argue these are people whether they are liberals or libertarians concerned with privacy. >> alliance that tends to frustrate their party in their traditional base of their party. they meet...
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the nation's top nsa officials went before congress today. without copping to specifics, director of national intelligence said in so many words yeah of course we spy on our allies. they spy on us. it's been going on for decades. is it naive to expect less? is this what countries do to each other? >> i think on some level you should expect that, right? how you're supposed to take your allies' words they're always going to be allies? that's just natural. the big issue it's a p.r. disaster on top of the p.r. disaster. now an international p.r. disaster? it's coming precisely at the wrong time for the administration. but i think it's a normal thing. >> i don't think it's just a p.r. disaster, charles. i think it's this nsa system set up under bush and cheney which obama has refused to stare down. i think it's a juggernaut that's out of control. hoovering up so much information, untram meld powers and taken this kind of surveillance to a whole new comprehensive level that picks up all the stuff. >> the fundamental principle has not changed if you
the nation's top nsa officials went before congress today. without copping to specifics, director of national intelligence said in so many words yeah of course we spy on our allies. they spy on us. it's been going on for decades. is it naive to expect less? is this what countries do to each other? >> i think on some level you should expect that, right? how you're supposed to take your allies' words they're always going to be allies? that's just natural. the big issue it's a p.r. disaster...
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when we come back, the nsa controversy grows. as a new round of leaks that the spy agency against the white house over who knew what about our overseas intelligence operati operations. [ coughs, sneezes ] i have a big meeting when we land, but i am so stuffed up, i can't rest. [ male announcer ] nyquil cold and flu liquid gels don't unstuff your nose. they don't? alka seltzer plus night fights your worst cold symptoms, plus has a decongestant. [ inhales deeply ] oh. what a relief it is. tomato florentine soup, it took a little time to get it just right. [ ding ] ♪ but finally, it happened. perfection. at progresso, we've got a passion for quality, because you've got a passion for taste. [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] lease the 2014 e350 for $579 a month at your local merce
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nsa saide yes, we will change those domestically. if the post story is accurate, at the same time they were changing domestic procedures, they were in effect going around them by collecting similar data overseas. you don't say i'm closing front door and go in the back door. this one that people -- even people sympathetic to the broad mission of counter-terrorism and intelligence collection, they should be bothered by this report. >> just briefly i've been told by officials the intent was not to go in the back door, they believe under executive order in the '80s they have every right to do this from foreign to foreign intelligence. they do sweep of americans in the mix if they have foreign telephones. >> andrea, you're absolutely right. every intelligence agencies exists to break the laws of foreign countries. if you were going to do it legally, you'd do it with the state department. the problem is if you're using that broad authority to in effect get around limits that would be placed on domestic activities by other statutes, that is
nsa saide yes, we will change those domestically. if the post story is accurate, at the same time they were changing domestic procedures, they were in effect going around them by collecting similar data overseas. you don't say i'm closing front door and go in the back door. this one that people -- even people sympathetic to the broad mission of counter-terrorism and intelligence collection, they should be bothered by this report. >> just briefly i've been told by officials the intent was...
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have they done an independent audit on what the nsa agency was looking into? no, not so far, and they should. >> so do you think -- what about snowden's leaks, bob, do you think he has been working with foreign governments, or is that allegation, to your view at this point, also not clear? >> well, erin, the promise -- i spent so many years up against the russians. and in that world, when someone goes to moscow, they're presumed guilty. not the other way around. presumed innocent. so you know, i always look at it from a counterintelligence perspective. and i wish he had not gone to moscow, i wish he would have made his protests on the floor of the courthouse, there is no evidence he is a deflector, but i can assure you that the fbi and the cia are looking at that possibility, but again, there is no evidence. >> all right, appreciate your viewpoint, thanks so much to bob and ray. >>> and up next, what would a real iron man suit look like? we'll show you the u.s. military is about to launch that very thing. my customers can shop around-- see who does good work a
have they done an independent audit on what the nsa agency was looking into? no, not so far, and they should. >> so do you think -- what about snowden's leaks, bob, do you think he has been working with foreign governments, or is that allegation, to your view at this point, also not clear? >> well, erin, the promise -- i spent so many years up against the russians. and in that world, when someone goes to moscow, they're presumed guilty. not the other way around. presumed innocent....
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this is nsa memos. that's one part. the second part has to do with the fact the white house is now saying we're not going to do it going forward. you get the sense that they know they are embarrassed by the revelations. they are not necessarily embarrassed by the tactics but embarrassed they got caught. >> take a look at what some of the eu parliamentarians came, axle voss from germany speaking on capitol hill to frank. >> frustration, anger, the feeling no one is controlling the nsa, no one is respecting privacy rights. no one is respecting data protection standouts. therefore we are in a mix of anger and frustration but also trying to keep the relationship alive. >> but they want answers. they said these were frank discussions. mark, you and i have covered foreign policy a long time. this is a very unhappy group of people. to a certain extent there's spying everywhere. we know that. it's a little shock. there's gambling at mr. rick's. the germans want the same special relationship of no spying agreement that we have w
this is nsa memos. that's one part. the second part has to do with the fact the white house is now saying we're not going to do it going forward. you get the sense that they know they are embarrassed by the revelations. they are not necessarily embarrassed by the tactics but embarrassed they got caught. >> take a look at what some of the eu parliamentarians came, axle voss from germany speaking on capitol hill to frank. >> frustration, anger, the feeling no one is controlling the...
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have they done an independent audit on what the nsa agency was looking into? no, not so far, and they should. >> so do you think -- what about snowden's leaks, bob, do you think he has been working with foreign governments, or is that allegation, to your view at this point, also not clear? >> well, erin, the promise -- i spent so many years up against the russians. and in that world, when someone goes to moscow, they're presumed guilty. not the other way around. presumed innocent. so you know, i always look at it from a counterintelligence perspective. and i wish he had not gone to moscow, i wish he would have made his protests on the floor of the courthouse, there is no evidence he is a deflector, but i can assure you that the fbi and the cia are looking at that possibility, but again, there is no evidence. >> all right, appreciate your viewpoint, thanks so much to bob and ray. >>> and up next, what would a real iron man suit look like? we'll show you the u.s. military is about to launch that very thing. weekdays are for rising to the challenge. they're the d
have they done an independent audit on what the nsa agency was looking into? no, not so far, and they should. >> so do you think -- what about snowden's leaks, bob, do you think he has been working with foreign governments, or is that allegation, to your view at this point, also not clear? >> well, erin, the promise -- i spent so many years up against the russians. and in that world, when someone goes to moscow, they're presumed guilty. not the other way around. presumed innocent....
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"these decisions are made at nsa." at nsa? so, that one agency just gets to decide on its own that it's going to bug the cell phones of world leaders for years? and what, just hope the president doesn't find out about it? you guys are making the call on your own? what's going on here? and is the nsa under anyone's control? joining us now is my friend, ron sust yin, putseer prize winning journalist and from the harvard school of ethics and author of many books, including "the one percent doctrine." thanks for being here. >> nice to be here. >> so, what's going on here? and, the hardest thing for me about intelligence stories is that i never believe anybody. how can we know if the nsa is doing this on their own terms? it seems impossible. >> well, it's the way this system has worked in a way for a long time. the word to remember, plausible deniability, two words. what you have here is an operation that yields intelligence, signal intelligence, that the president is kind of not supposed to know the source of. the way these briefi
"these decisions are made at nsa." at nsa? so, that one agency just gets to decide on its own that it's going to bug the cell phones of world leaders for years? and what, just hope the president doesn't find out about it? you guys are making the call on your own? what's going on here? and is the nsa under anyone's control? joining us now is my friend, ron sust yin, putseer prize winning journalist and from the harvard school of ethics and author of many books, including "the one...
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i agree with him, nsa spying that protects our national security is critical. but he is lumping in this what i would call gratuitous spying on our leaders that could have enormous consequences for our national security. >> what if this is just trust but verify? >> listen, in the end trust but verify comes down to a very simple proposition. they all knew that we're spying. they do it, everybody does it. but the fact of the matter is, is that there's gambling going on upstairs. all of a sudden there's a revelation. it's the damage that was done now, thomas, and the biggest concern that i have is that we really didn't have to be snooping on chancellor merkel's phone conversations to know what's going on in germany. we didn't have to be doing this. this is an nsa that has run out of control at this point. >>> so reform on the rocks. even senator marco rubio admits that efforts to change immigration reform and the law not going so good. the agenda panel will weigh in on that coming up. >>> jay z breaking his silence about his big deal with the department store barne
i agree with him, nsa spying that protects our national security is critical. but he is lumping in this what i would call gratuitous spying on our leaders that could have enormous consequences for our national security. >> what if this is just trust but verify? >> listen, in the end trust but verify comes down to a very simple proposition. they all knew that we're spying. they do it, everybody does it. but the fact of the matter is, is that there's gambling going on upstairs. all of...
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>> edward snowden's nsa revelations reaching new heights, getting spoofed on snl. but now the leaker is seeking ce clemens city. >>> and toronto's embattled mayor says he will stay in office. >>> and the sbepgs intentional that was the youtube music awards. that's a real thing? it is? okay. this is "way too early". good morning. i'm bill karins in for brian shactman. it's monday, november 4th. we'll also show and you scary moment in last night's texas/colt game. but first, the country's third biggest airport fully up and running again, but underlying safety concerns after a man used an assault arrival to kill one tsa agent and badly injured two other people. paul ciancia is in critical condition after being shot multiple times by officers. he was carrying five high capacity magazines, a bag of ammo and happennd written lette explaining his rampage. gun control advocates say the incident is unlikely to spark any head way in the limit of gun sales. >>> later today, the president will speak at an organizing for action health care summit looking to rally grass roots su
>> edward snowden's nsa revelations reaching new heights, getting spoofed on snl. but now the leaker is seeking ce clemens city. >>> and toronto's embattled mayor says he will stay in office. >>> and the sbepgs intentional that was the youtube music awards. that's a real thing? it is? okay. this is "way too early". good morning. i'm bill karins in for brian shactman. it's monday, november 4th. we'll also show and you scary moment in last night's texas/colt...
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regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer after which it ended some of those programs. the senior administration official tells me the program that monitored the phone of german chancellor angela merkel did not end until quite recently. the white house today sidestepped any comment on that report while vaguely promising more accountability. >> we recognize that there need to be additional constraints on how we gather and use intelligence, but the president has directed us to review our surveillance capabilities. the entire review that is being led by the white house will be completed by the end of the year. >> the offi
regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer...
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why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the way, we listen to her phone conversations on her cell phone, you should know this. >> i talked to people on both sides of this. some say if he didn't know, he should have known. he should just have assumed it. others say well, this is the way the nsa operates and you need to pierce that and you need to change the system, because just because as jay carney said today, just because they can gather all this information doesn't mean that they should gather all this information. that's why it's clear the president is having a review in the wake of the edward snowden disclosures but
why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the...
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intelligence worker involved in nsa operations against merkel that the nsa chief, general keith alexander informed the president in person about 2010, obama didn't stop the operation back then, but he let it continue. there is no that discussion about any intention regarding the recording of the president. caller: i just wanted to say this. i remember the ap story and member the ap story for reason. therems that every time is an ap story has been spying. i don't think we in this country particularly care about our government spying on people because they have been doing it for so long, especially under george bush and cheney. i think that govern he wow. where do want to say is this: i wish we could talk about jobs and how we are treating our kids in our schools now. i wish we could talk about something that's... evil really have something that we can do something with because i don't think this story right here does anything for our country because i don't think they're going to stop. why would they? stop. surely not can he's going to make sure we are protected. we have republican party a
intelligence worker involved in nsa operations against merkel that the nsa chief, general keith alexander informed the president in person about 2010, obama didn't stop the operation back then, but he let it continue. there is no that discussion about any intention regarding the recording of the president. caller: i just wanted to say this. i remember the ap story and member the ap story for reason. therems that every time is an ap story has been spying. i don't think we in this country...
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this is something the white house and nsa deny. "wall street journal" reports the president was only made aware of this last summer. conflicting at this point. neither answers is satisfying because either he didn't have enough oversight or he hasn't been entirely forthcoming. demands for more information. some of these things are so sensitive, he can't go into full detail. >> there's a review under way right now. we expect other potentially controversial details to emerge. >> no question. they a real worry now particularly for relationships sensitive intelligence sharing relationships with the u.s. we share intelligence with the germans, french and so on. these relationships in south asia, in the middle east, more difficult countries for which a revelation they're cooperating on a country like iran could be damaging for them and u.s. relationships with them. >> in germany, this is especially sensitive because of east germany and the way it was ruled during the communist era. this is such a sensitive issue for the chancellor angela
this is something the white house and nsa deny. "wall street journal" reports the president was only made aware of this last summer. conflicting at this point. neither answers is satisfying because either he didn't have enough oversight or he hasn't been entirely forthcoming. demands for more information. some of these things are so sensitive, he can't go into full detail. >> there's a review under way right now. we expect other potentially controversial details to emerge....
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nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of america i will and others. >> chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. thanks. congressman adam schiff of california sits on the house intelligence committee and stepped out of today's meeting to speak to us live from capitol hill. thanks for joining us. quickly, james clapper was also asked if our allies are guilty of the same sort of thing. here is what he said. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time, any type of espionage activity against the united states of america, intelligence se
nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of...
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thisld like to call about nsa spying. and i think erin assay has just gotten completely out of control . the other day, you had that mike connolly on there, republican from texas. i tried to call in to c-span. i got through on the line and they were filtering calls. they asked me what my comment was and i said i just wanted to complain about the spying and the girl says i am just hanging out then hung up on me. i would like some kind of expedition about that. that don't sound right for c- span. have they taken control of speech -- a c-span, too? what was your comment about? caller: i just wanted to register my complaint about it. host: what was your complaint about overall? caller: that this is a terrible thing. we have had our freedom taken away from us. we have no privacy whatsoever. if they want your phone calls, they get it. if they want your e-mails, they get it. whatever they want. not just here, all around the world. host: did you have concerns about the recent stories about monitoring activities? caller: yes. they
thisld like to call about nsa spying. and i think erin assay has just gotten completely out of control . the other day, you had that mike connolly on there, republican from texas. i tried to call in to c-span. i got through on the line and they were filtering calls. they asked me what my comment was and i said i just wanted to complain about the spying and the girl says i am just hanging out then hung up on me. i would like some kind of expedition about that. that don't sound right for c- span....
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the nsa went on record to say that the president did not know about it. it makes me feel worse actually. the president has been forced to apologize not only to merkel but france's president and brazil's president. the eu is threatening to cancel pending trade talks. thanks, edward snowden, we appreciate it. let's spin. there's a lot of directions to go. one of the dynamic that's really interesting, to consider president obama's position here, i think we've all been trying to figure out where exactly he stands. he's been hawkish in some ways and continued a lot of these programs but he also seems sort of ret sent, saying they suspended the spying operations, they didn't know about it. peter king said something interesting over the weekend that sort of speaks to that. >> the president should stop apologizing and being defensive. the realty is the nsa has saved thousands of lives not just in united states but in france and germany and throughout europe. quite frankly they have done so much for our country and help this president in his term, he should be --
the nsa went on record to say that the president did not know about it. it makes me feel worse actually. the president has been forced to apologize not only to merkel but france's president and brazil's president. the eu is threatening to cancel pending trade talks. thanks, edward snowden, we appreciate it. let's spin. there's a lot of directions to go. one of the dynamic that's really interesting, to consider president obama's position here, i think we've all been trying to figure out where...
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let's talk about the nsa. we heard dan pfeiffer weigh in on that. he said that clemency for edward snowden isn't under consideration at all, should it be? >> i don't know the facts. i don't know whether any information has been distributed to foreign powers. i'm concerned that the national defense director lied to congress and i haven't heard anyone talk about repercussions. we're not only spying on foreign leaders, but there are accusations that we spied on the pope as well. there are problems. we lost a lot of credibility. the only way to start fresh is someone new in charge of intelligence. >> there's also a suggestion from one of the former chiefs, in today's "new york times," in an extensive review of the entire nsa program, he said that the nsa should get out ahead of this and put out everything they knew snowden to have. do think that's a good idea? >> maybe. the fundamental question of whether or not this constitution or not, shouldn't be a secret court, it needs to get into the supreme court, with senator widen and myself, we introduced a b
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why weren't you monitoring. >> the other issue is the nsa mismanagement. that's another thing about this white house. they don't like to fire people in the moment. people then get fired like five months later and decide to leave. general alexander, we know he is leaving and they are trying to say it's not connected. of course it is. everybody in the intelligence community is furious. >> i'm sure you had several people say this to you and people say we don't work on washington's time frame. everyone is calling for someone to be fired. we work on a different time frame. you run the risk of a period like you are not handling an issue and taking it seriously. >> i do. i have been in that position at governor's level and you want to be careful about this stuff. particularly the relationships. >> feed you people. >> but you do eventually fire somebody and you like to wait? >> you move them quietly. >> you all love that. >> i can make so many jokes. hold off. we will talk more hot politics and that will get you fired up. tension at the top. we look at the rocky r
why weren't you monitoring. >> the other issue is the nsa mismanagement. that's another thing about this white house. they don't like to fire people in the moment. people then get fired like five months later and decide to leave. general alexander, we know he is leaving and they are trying to say it's not connected. of course it is. everybody in the intelligence community is furious. >> i'm sure you had several people say this to you and people say we don't work on washington's time...
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nsa story. it wasn't too long ago we were talking about the government shutdown, how awful that was for the republican party, certainly how awful it was for a lot of people who found themselves without paychecks and a lot of services. but certainly the last two weeks have been a very big boom for the republican party and you've seen the obama administration and white house certainly on the defensive. >> with this -- for example, with the nsa, i don't know how it's necessarily a big boom for them because you do have rpz like peter king defending the administration and defending the president. there are not clear divided lines as we saw with the government shutdown and even early on with republicans who were hand in hand on fighting the health care law. >> tamron, let pe put it a different way. a lot of folks on capitol hill are all -- the more we talk about nsa and all of the glitches involved with the website and problems and flaws in the health care law, and you're for getting about the governm
nsa story. it wasn't too long ago we were talking about the government shutdown, how awful that was for the republican party, certainly how awful it was for a lot of people who found themselves without paychecks and a lot of services. but certainly the last two weeks have been a very big boom for the republican party and you've seen the obama administration and white house certainly on the defensive. >> with this -- for example, with the nsa, i don't know how it's necessarily a big boom...
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the nsa says it's simply not true. but this isn't helping shape the relationship. >> scott, thank you so much. yahoo, google say they are out raged that they may have been spied upon. what's their biggest fear? what's the worst that can happen if the government starts collecting daytime that from people with google accounts? >> i think, first of all, they're very upset because they know that they're supposed to be keeping their information private and secure. so if the government is breaking into americans acounts, they shouldn't be doing that. >> so tell us about -- tell us about this drawing that was leaked alodge with some other edward snowden documents. does it show how the nsa broke into google. >> >> yes, think of google as having multiple data centers around the world. what apparently, it did, the fiberoptic connections, they tabbed into. they put a clip on or had a way to monitor what was going through those fiberoptic cables. that's something we've learned from snowden that they've been doing around the world.
the nsa says it's simply not true. but this isn't helping shape the relationship. >> scott, thank you so much. yahoo, google say they are out raged that they may have been spied upon. what's their biggest fear? what's the worst that can happen if the government starts collecting daytime that from people with google accounts? >> i think, first of all, they're very upset because they know that they're supposed to be keeping their information private and secure. so if the government is...
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documents provided by nsa leaker edward snowden. the spanish government summoned the american ambassador asking for an explanation. >>> this weekend, thousands of protesters marched on capitol hill demanding an end to the government surveillance program at home and abroad. many carried signs praising snowden and thanking him for blowing wistle on the nsa by leaking classified documents. this comes as international outrage builds over the broad scope of the nsa's data gathering over years. european leaders continue to put pressure on the country to for a new spying deal on allies. chefon, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> let's explain why it is some officials have explained perhaps why the president would not know about this for five years. >> as it was explained to us, this type of surveillance is the type of program or decision that would be executed at the level of the national security agency and the way the protocols are set up at this point, that's sort of where the line of information would stop. there isn't n
documents provided by nsa leaker edward snowden. the spanish government summoned the american ambassador asking for an explanation. >>> this weekend, thousands of protesters marched on capitol hill demanding an end to the government surveillance program at home and abroad. many carried signs praising snowden and thanking him for blowing wistle on the nsa by leaking classified documents. this comes as international outrage builds over the broad scope of the nsa's data gathering over...
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i think it's because of nsa surveillance. i think it's because of syria and the problems related to that. i think when you put all of these things together, people are looking at the president and saying you know, you're not fixing the problems. >> i think one of the problems, too, has been something the republicans have pushed and pushed it subtly for once, and that is the whole idea that he didn't know anything about anything. republicans have put that, you know, you bring up benghazi, what did you know, when did you know it, you bring up did he understand what was going on with the website. well, no, he really didn't know it. so did he know we were spying on our closest friends, well, no, the president didn't know that. i think it gives people this uneasy sense. we're already in uneasy times economically. obama care just superimposes itself over that and people thinking something that we talk about at my kitchen table is changing here, and that's important. it's not some place far away. it's right here. then you add on top
i think it's because of nsa surveillance. i think it's because of syria and the problems related to that. i think when you put all of these things together, people are looking at the president and saying you know, you're not fixing the problems. >> i think one of the problems, too, has been something the republicans have pushed and pushed it subtly for once, and that is the whole idea that he didn't know anything about anything. republicans have put that, you know, you bring up benghazi,...
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if he didn't know he presided over an nsa that was unaccountable. if i had to bet i'd put my money on he didn't know all along. if he did, it would be too impractical to tell him. >> i take the president his word about this, just given the scope of how much information was getting vacuumed up. >> that's some high-level information, though, isn't it? this is different than metadata, to peter's point of this is tapping angela merkel's cell phone. >> if the president did not know that we were vacuuming up calls and information from our closest allies, then the thing really, really, has spun completely out of control. >> ezra, the third point there, okay, so maybe the president is mad. maybe the american public is mad. the jury is still out on that. the third question is are the leaders themselves actually mad? i think it's different with the germans, you have brazilians who canceled state visit, mexicans calling for ambassadorial meetings, the spanish also in inquiring and the french who were indignant and outraged. >> they are always the best. >> i do
if he didn't know he presided over an nsa that was unaccountable. if i had to bet i'd put my money on he didn't know all along. if he did, it would be too impractical to tell him. >> i take the president his word about this, just given the scope of how much information was getting vacuumed up. >> that's some high-level information, though, isn't it? this is different than metadata, to peter's point of this is tapping angela merkel's cell phone. >> if the president did not know...
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he did not, however, say specifically whether president obama himself knew about the nsa targeting the phones of 35 leaders including u.s. allies, including the german chancellor. he did say that the u.s. knew about the starting and the type of collection that's been done. >> would it be fair to say that the white house should know what those collection priorities are? >> they can and do, but i have to say that that does not necessarily extend to the detail. and we're talking about a huge enterprise here with thousands and thousands of individual requirements. >> this all starts, though, as you recall, with a report in germany's der spiegel that the nsa monitored the german chancellor's cell phone and could be traced back to the nsa whistle-blower edward snowden. glenn greenwald joins us tonight. want to play something vice president dick cheney said to jay tapper when he interviewed him earlier this week. tapper asked him about edward snowden. i want to play what he said. >> the problem with snowden is he had access to classified information. he violated conditions under which they go
he did not, however, say specifically whether president obama himself knew about the nsa targeting the phones of 35 leaders including u.s. allies, including the german chancellor. he did say that the u.s. knew about the starting and the type of collection that's been done. >> would it be fair to say that the white house should know what those collection priorities are? >> they can and do, but i have to say that that does not necessarily extend to the detail. and we're talking about...
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but in fact, the nsa collected no information in europe. they say that any information, i in of this meta data, that's with a it was. not phone call or conten was done by european services, not by the nsa. that it was not in fact the citizens of those countries, france and spain, but collected from a number of sources by the u.s. and nato allies in support of military operations abroad. here's how they made that case at the hearings today. >> the assertions by spain, italy, that nsa collected ten of million of phone call are completely false. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> so in effect, they're saying that one of the strongest reasons for this anger we've been seeing from europe started with nothing. the misinterpretation, erin, of a single power point slide. >> wow, we shall see. that was the tip of the iceberg. thanks so much to you. >> republican
but in fact, the nsa collected no information in europe. they say that any information, i in of this meta data, that's with a it was. not phone call or conten was done by european services, not by the nsa. that it was not in fact the citizens of those countries, france and spain, but collected from a number of sources by the u.s. and nato allies in support of military operations abroad. here's how they made that case at the hearings today. >> the assertions by spain, italy, that nsa...
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. >> one report from a german tabloid indicated that president obama knew that the nsa was tapping the phone of the german chance explore he allowed it to continue, again, german tabloid, a spokeswoman for the agency says that is simply not true. and "the wall street journal" reports the nsa stop monitoring chancellor merkel and other leaders after a white house review uncovered the operations. "the wall street journal" again. meanwhile, a state department spokeswoman says our ambassador to spain met with officials there to discuss reports that the nsa tracked more than 60 million phone calls in that country in one month. dana perino was the press secretary under george w. bush, the 43rd, president bush, 43, and this was happening under bush 43rd. >> i suppose. i don't get the outrage. i don't. i can mott believe the white house said we're going to have to curtail our operations, our intelligence, because they were embarrassed over a report. there's a reason they call it top secret. it is top secret, and i bet you any of these countries that are in any of this news stores are trying to
. >> one report from a german tabloid indicated that president obama knew that the nsa was tapping the phone of the german chance explore he allowed it to continue, again, german tabloid, a spokeswoman for the agency says that is simply not true. and "the wall street journal" reports the nsa stop monitoring chancellor merkel and other leaders after a white house review uncovered the operations. "the wall street journal" again. meanwhile, a state department spokeswoman...
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nsa officials testified as well on their spying programs. the farm bill conferees have begin negotiations. what is your top story this week? we will go through the papers on "washington journal." we want to know what
nsa officials testified as well on their spying programs. the farm bill conferees have begin negotiations. what is your top story this week? we will go through the papers on "washington journal." we want to know what
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he watched the disclosure of nsa secrets by "the guardian" this year with interest as glenn greenwald champion eed as ed a e adversarial. he argued that impartiality is flawed and that people who are willing to not only acknowledge beliefs but publicly. what's wrong with that approach? >> there's nothing wrong with that approach. it's not the only approach that works. there has been greated adversarl coverage over the years. they were going after the trusts and corrupt political machines and they wrote with real edge to them. they also had the facts. they had the information. but more and more we're now in an era where thanks to the internet anybody with broadband access can be a commentator. that's great. the effect of the internet has been by in large a good thing. it's pulled mainstream media down from the god-like stature that it had for so long. that's terrific. i think in that world more than ever when you have these points of view, it's really useful to have somebody who tries to sort of play the arbiter. you know, the shortcoming of activist or adversarial journalism is two-fo
he watched the disclosure of nsa secrets by "the guardian" this year with interest as glenn greenwald champion eed as ed a e adversarial. he argued that impartiality is flawed and that people who are willing to not only acknowledge beliefs but publicly. what's wrong with that approach? >> there's nothing wrong with that approach. it's not the only approach that works. there has been greated adversarl coverage over the years. they were going after the trusts and corrupt political...
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allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big pushback coming from this unidentified source, the wall street journal, saying the president did not know the nsa was spying on foreign leaders, put a stop to it once he found out. let's take the president at his word. why didn't he know? >> look, i have absolutely zero idea about whether he knew whether he didn't, why he didn't, or what. what i do know is spying has been, you know, as old as diplomacy itself. it is part of accepted statecraft. it's not pleasant. they don't like it, but they all know it happens. i think the issue is the publics in europe were very upset. in germany
allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big...
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the nsa chief delivered a partial denial. >> this is not nsa breaking into any databases. it would be illegal for us to do that. >> reporter: as did a written statement from nsa to cnn saying "the assertion that we collect vast quantities of u.s. persons' data from this type of collection is not true" but the nsa did not deny it accesses links between the servers or communications of foreigners carried on those links. reaction from google and yahoo! was swift and angry. "we have long been concerned about the possibility of this snooping" said google "which is why we continue to extend encryption across more and more google services and links." yahoo! says "we have not given access to our data centers to the nsa or any other government agency." two european delegations upset at allegations of nsa surveillance in their countries met face-to-face with the white house and the in, sa chief who told them all nsa intel gathering in europe is done in collaboration with european intel agencies. so i asked them, does that make the europeans hypocritical for criticizing the u.s.? >>
the nsa chief delivered a partial denial. >> this is not nsa breaking into any databases. it would be illegal for us to do that. >> reporter: as did a written statement from nsa to cnn saying "the assertion that we collect vast quantities of u.s. persons' data from this type of collection is not true" but the nsa did not deny it accesses links between the servers or communications of foreigners carried on those links. reaction from google and yahoo! was swift and angry....
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and could be traced back to nsa whistle blower edward snowd snowden. glenn greenwald joins us tonight. want to play something vice president dick cheney said to tapper. tapper asked him about edward snowden. i want to play what he said. >> the problem with snowden is he had acre says to classified information. he's a trader plain and simple. some say he's a whistle blower. he's talked about methods and ways we collect intelligence. >> a number of people said and come around and changed their opinion but clearly vice president cheney doesn't sound like he's going to. how do you respond to what he said? >> i'm really glad dick cheney is available to speak on this because i think he under scores the most important point. dick cheney engaged in some of the worst, most radical conduct in the united states in secret from lying about the war in iraq to torturing people, to putting people in cages with no lawyers a and eavesdropping of people. people in political power like dick cheney want to do what they do behind a wall of sec ra see because they always con
and could be traced back to nsa whistle blower edward snowd snowden. glenn greenwald joins us tonight. want to play something vice president dick cheney said to tapper. tapper asked him about edward snowden. i want to play what he said. >> the problem with snowden is he had acre says to classified information. he's a trader plain and simple. some say he's a whistle blower. he's talked about methods and ways we collect intelligence. >> a number of people said and come around and...
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. >>> after nsa edward snowden met with a german lawmaker in moscow he reportedly said he is willing to testify. he will go to nogermany as longs that country doesn't send him to the us. he said in a manifesto today that he feels justified in spilling intelligence secrets. the german lawmaker who met edward snowden said the confessed leaker wants to testify in front of congress. >> he stressed that he is ready to come before the german parliament to testify and that he would rather go before the pairliment and put the facts on the table. >> she says he is making his own decisions and is not being manipulated by the russians. >> despite the police state surveillance state we have been turning into. i think he would love to come back some day if the conditions plitly were different. >> nsa chief alexander, the turmoil now giving him second thoughts on whether spying on al lies like german chancellor merkel was worth it. >> i think those partnerships have greater value than some of the collection and we ought to look at it like that. >> the intelligence community denies collecting repor
. >>> after nsa edward snowden met with a german lawmaker in moscow he reportedly said he is willing to testify. he will go to nogermany as longs that country doesn't send him to the us. he said in a manifesto today that he feels justified in spilling intelligence secrets. the german lawmaker who met edward snowden said the confessed leaker wants to testify in front of congress. >> he stressed that he is ready to come before the german parliament to testify and that he would...
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. >> did he ever express any hatred toward the government or nsa? >> all the findings that came out, he was very sun either and thought ts after the abused their power. >> stephanie elam is in los angeles this morning with more. good morning, stephanie. >> reporter: good morning. the woman knows of the people who lived in this place with the shooter and it was very strike to go hear how everything went down. and if you listen to a little bit more of the conversation they had, it helps to paint a picture of what they realize was happening. >> at that moment that they're seeing this on the tv, their third roommate comes back and says i just dropped off paul at l.a.x.. and they knew he had just dropped off paul to a shooting. >> absolutely disturbing to hear that, carol. now what we also know is where the shooter is from in the southern new jersey. they got text messages, his family did, his younger brother, his dad saw them apparently and alerted the chief of police in their town. that police officer then reached out to los angeles, they did a welfare
. >> did he ever express any hatred toward the government or nsa? >> all the findings that came out, he was very sun either and thought ts after the abused their power. >> stephanie elam is in los angeles this morning with more. good morning, stephanie. >> reporter: good morning. the woman knows of the people who lived in this place with the shooter and it was very strike to go hear how everything went down. and if you listen to a little bit more of the conversation they...
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i'm calling about the nsa thing. you believe that what the united states is doing with the nsa, to spy on their own people is really wrong. they should be out there taking care of the terrorists and monitoring them. the only reason they want to monitor the people in the united states is because they have done so much wrong that now they have to worry about what the people of the united states will do. they don't want any roms like that. if they had done their jobs in the first place, they would not have to worry about these people. they --ld be taken of they should be taking care of the national threats. having to worry about what you put in an e-mail to somebody or what you talking about on the phone should not be. this is america and the constitution granted as rice to do things on they want to take all these rights away. that's all i have to say. host: thank you so much for your call. we are continue to talk about the top stories with rodney from florida on our line for democrats. caller: i was going to talk that
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meanwhile a top republican lawmaker is defending the nsa surveillance program abroad saying it keeps allies "safe." congressman mike rogers told our candy crowley the reports that the u.s. spied on millions of french citizens is misguided. >> maybe there's something more to that. i argue if the french citizens knew exactly what that was about they'd be applauding and popping champagne corks. it's a good thing, keeps the french safe t keeps the u.s. safe t keeps our european allies safe so this whole notion that we're going to go after each other on what is really legitimate protection of nation state interests i think is disingenuous candidly. >> mike rogers calling it disingenuous, something like that classic scene from "casablanca." >> everybody is to leave here immediately. this cafe is closed until further notice. clear the room at once! >> how can he close me up? >> i'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here. >> your winnings, sir. >> thank you very much. >> we'll talk more about this all of this and the fallout throughout the show, but cnn chief national sec
meanwhile a top republican lawmaker is defending the nsa surveillance program abroad saying it keeps allies "safe." congressman mike rogers told our candy crowley the reports that the u.s. spied on millions of french citizens is misguided. >> maybe there's something more to that. i argue if the french citizens knew exactly what that was about they'd be applauding and popping champagne corks. it's a good thing, keeps the french safe t keeps the u.s. safe t keeps our european...